Moroccan ruby
- Gemsnob
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Re: Moroccan ruby
Just do an internet search for corundum and silk inclusions. They are a form of rutile and extremely common in corundum. In fact, its one way to tell natural from lab created. Heat treating removes some of them as well as ff. The hosts probably dont have the time to teach all of this. The internet is full of info but the GIA is considered the Bible of gemologists. Its where they get certified.
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Also, many collectors will search out untreated or unheated sapphires a d ruby with perfect clarity just because silk IS so common. Its like emerald having inclusions. You just expect it. Collecters will pay A Lot percarrat for untreated corundum.
- Gypsy
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Thank you for the informationGemsnob wrote: ↑4 years agoJust do an internet search for corundum and silk inclusions. They are a form of rutile and extremely common in corundum. In fact, its one way to tell natural from lab created. Heat treating removes some of them as well as ff. The hosts probably dont have the time to teach all of this. The internet is full of info but the GIA is considered the Bible of gemologists. Its where they get certified.
Really appreciate it.
- Gem Lover
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But silk looks different then the fissure filled cracks and what I saw on one of the rings did not look like silk. Also if there is to much silk it effects the clarity of the stone. The Indian rubies I have are nice but very opaque and I did have to send a few back before getting ones I liked as far as color and no eye visible silk.
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Im not watching so I cannot say. I just replied to try explain what silk is. I have never seen good quality ie clear corundum that is not ff offered on SLC or any network that is affordable unless it is set in 14 kt or higher.. Indian ruby is almost always large ct weight but for the most part opaque. People decide what the trade off is. Do they want good color and a large stone or better clarity and a smaller size?Gem Lover wrote: ↑4 years agoBut silk looks different then the fissure filled cracks and what I saw on one of the rings did not look like silk. Also if there is to much silk it effects the clarity of the stone. The Indian rubies I have are nice but very opaque and I did have to send a few back before getting ones I liked as far as color and no eye visible silk.
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Re: Moroccan ruby
Hello.
Silk, can also effect the 'value' of the stone.
I agree, with Gemsnob on all points.
It does become a' trade off'!
Silk, can also effect the 'value' of the stone.
I agree, with Gemsnob on all points.
It does become a' trade off'!
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Just for information: the ‘silk’ can also be causedGypsy wrote: ↑4 years agoI asked the hosts and they answered that it was natural characteristic and it was called silk (think that's the word I heard) not FFCJM wrote: ↑4 years agoAre those lines you see on close up shots a sign of fissure fill? I don’t know. I’ve noticed those streaks on many close shots of many different gems. Even the Burmese ruby stones. I’ve often wondered what it was. Can a moderator answer this question? I don’t see the streaks when I get an item but then eye sight is not 25x magnification either !
By the ff treatment. Beware. Buy only what you
love and stay away from ultrasonic cleaners
- Gypsy
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Re: Moroccan ruby
Thanks Spooky !Spooky wrote: ↑4 years agoJust for information: the ‘silk’ can also be causedGypsy wrote: ↑4 years agoI asked the hosts and they answered that it was natural characteristic and it was called silk (think that's the word I heard) not FFCJM wrote: ↑4 years agoAre those lines you see on close up shots a sign of fissure fill? I don’t know. I’ve noticed those streaks on many close shots of many different gems. Even the Burmese ruby stones. I’ve often wondered what it was. Can a moderator answer this question? I don’t see the streaks when I get an item but then eye sight is not 25x magnification either !
By the ff treatment. Beware. Buy only what you
love and stay away from ultrasonic cleaners
Oh yeah absolutely !! Both Karen & Shawn stated all thru the presentation that the Ruby was all natural , not FF but I would never use ultrasonic cleaner on anything I own.
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Re: Moroccan ruby
- Gem Lover
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They might have said they are all natural but every single host said that about the Burmese Ruby and that was a lie, we all now know that they fissure fill them to. I brought one of mine in to the jeweler and they told me my Burmese Ruby was in fact fissure filled and very poor quality so I called CS and they told me yes some are filled and some are not so you have to call to find out if the one you want is or not, I told them each ring should have it in the description of the item. I sent it back and got a refund but my point is I no longer trust the host when they tell us it is not fissure filled.